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Hey everyone,

Just a quick journal to let you know that the long out of print HiFi Color for Comics instructional book is Being re-released again through a Kickstarter campaign!

Brian and Kristy Miller managed to get the rights back for the book from the original publisher and have been in the process of updating all of the existing content and putting together lots of new stuff for the modern age of comic book coloring. so even if you have the original book this will be fantastic as a resource and it will only get better the more we support it, check out the stretch goals and rewards.

The link is here www.kickstarter.com/projects/h…

spread the word and try your best to help in any way you can. it would be a great investment to the whole industry.

a shout out to :iconfableimpact: & :iconrosshughes: for bringing this to my attention.
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RULES AND GUIDELINES

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Behave yourselves.

To be honest, that's about the only strict rule we have. We want to keep the gallery quality high - obviously this will mean not everyone's art is going to be accepted. We expect submitters to understand this and we will not tolerate hissy fits. Everyone is capable of frustration and, to a point, that's perfectly understandable. However, if it's constantly repeated, while we don't want to ban people (and dont yet really know how), if someone is repeatedly causing a stir because we didn't accept their work, we'll soon figure it out. This group is for professionals and people who want to be professionals, and we expect appropriate behaviour. So to spell it out completely so its absolutely clear - act professional!

With that unpleasantness out of the way...

While we have fairly high expectations for the gallery quality, we would like to keep the mood around this place pretty light hearted. Ideally we'd like to create a place here that you can be proud to submit your work to, and also be happy to hang out here and be a part of the community, and if everyone carries on in the same spirit we don't really need any more rules.


So here's how the group works
(this may be subject to change as we figure stuff out)

Membership: we have 3 basic levels of membership - you can only apply for basic membership, but all applications are automatically approved. We're happy for anyone & everyone to join the group, no matter what your interest in coloring.

Members - basic membership is intended for those who are starting out in coloring, but who aren't quite ready for professional work. Also welcome are publishers, studios and other prospective employers who'd like to keep an eye on our galleries, and anyone else who'd like to tag along, really. Members are elegible to enter group contests and submit announcements to the Promotions Pad. If any member's submissions to the group show consistent high quality they may be upgraded to...
Contributors - this group is reserved for those who have already shown they're ready to work in coloring (or very nearly), and as such you can only become a Contributor by invitation, or by having a normal membership upgraded. In addition to normal member benefits, Contributors can submit to all folders (including placing an ad-card in our 'for hire' gallery), and can vote on submissions (tho we ask that you don't vote for your *own* submissions - let's try to keep things relatively impartial ;D).
Moderators - once we get things going properly we'll be looking for a few moderators to help us run things. Moderators will need to know their stuff regarding coloring so will probably be drawn from our contributors, and each will be given a specific job within the group.

Submissions:

All submissions to the group are subject to voting. And we really mean all ... even the founders! We have very high expectations for submissions so make sure you're submitting only your best pieces. Also note that we only accept examples of coloring - if your submission is something you've colored over your own drawing we class this as illustration, and therefor not appropriate for this group. We have established a rough criteria for what will be accepted, so our voters should hopefully be fairly consistent. If your submission is not accepted and you don't understand why, please pop a comment in the submission-pending-box-thingy in your message center, and we'll do our best to explain our reasons.
A member can submit 1 piece per week into the member's and critique galleries, while a contributor can currently submit 2 pieces per day to any of the galleries. We will not accept any more than 2 submissions per person into the featured gallery per week.


Colorist for hire section:

... is a work in progress at the moment, but what we want to do with that section is allow contributors to submit promotional posters/info cards for themselves as colorists. The folder will appear on the front page with its entries set to random, so anyone looking for a colorist will be able to see your work and whatever information you would like to include.

We may also add a section for potential clients to post ads this same way.

Critique Corner:

Pretty self explanatory - this is where you post work you would like to receive feedback for. This is not an open submission folder for you to put whatever you want in - it will still be regulated, though not as highly as the rest of the galleries. We can't guarantee you'll always received critique, but what critique is given will be very honest. You may not always like what you hear, but we'll always try to do our best to help you improve your techniques.

Promotions Pad

If you have a new book coming out, a nice wee contest our members might enjoy, or really anything else related to coloring that you want to let everyone know about, the Promotions Pad is there for you. Just drop a note to the group, mark it PP in the subject-line (for example: PP - coloring contest), and we'll pop it up if it's appropriate. The Pad is prominently featured at the top of our main group profile, so should be seen by most of our visitors.


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Promo pad

Welcome to the Promo Pad!

Do you have a book coming out? Have you spotted a colouring contest? Is there something else you're just itching to let our members know about? Then this is the place for you!

The Promo Pad is here for any member who wants to get the word out about anything relevant to the group. It doesn't matter whether you're a colourist, a publisher or just an observant wanderer - if there's anything you think our members would like to hear about, let us know! Just drop us a note (marked "PP" in the subject), and I'll pop it up here!

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Well, it's been a while since I've had anything to post on here, huh? Come on guys, no contests to promote? No books coming out? If you don't let me know what you're up to, I can't pass the news on to the rest. So remember, keep me posted!

:iconwinter-city-comics: Thankfully, I do have a little something to throw your way. Pat Purcell is the creator of a great wee 80's-noir-styled book called Winter City. He's putting together issue 5, and thought he'd offer the pinup as a colouring contest. The lines are by "Star Wars: The Force Unleashed" artist Wayne Nichols - I'll post a thumbnail along with links to more info about the project below. Deadline's January 1st, so get your entries in!

on dA: Winter-City-Comics
website: www.winter-city.com/coloring-c…
FB: www.facebook.com/Winter.City.P…
Winter City pinup by FlowComa:iconflowcoma:

Other than that, Battle Artist still seems to be going strong. I'm a bit out of the loop on that one these days, but it looks like voting is on for the lines to be used in Color Battle 20 - get your votes in if you're in the game! battle-artist.deviantart.com/j…

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Useful links and resources

We will link to Colorist relevant resources here from DA and beyond! let us know if you find a great referance to share!

Great Groups:
:iconcomicteamup::iconflats-for-colorists::icondigital-coloring::iconbattle-artist::iconcolor-me-club:

Outside of DA:
Sean Ellery's website www.seanellery.com/
Jonathan Glapion's Website
www.jonathanglapion.com/line-a…
Digital webbing forum
www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/…
Gutterzombie forum
www.dave-co.com/gutterzombie/v…


Affiliates

:iconcomicforcolorist: ComicforColorist :iconindiegraphicnovels: IndieGraphicNovels Indie And Self-Published Artists :iconcomicartnetwork: ComicArtNetwork dA Comic Book Artists :iconbattle-artist: Battle-Artist Battle Artist :iconcomicteamup: ComicTeamUp comic penciler inker colorist

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:icontoxicflint:
ToxicFlint Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist

As you haven’t put together a ‘for hire’ section yet I’m not quite sure where I’m supposed to be posting this and if I’m putting in wrong place please except my apologies.

Hi, my names Graham Hersey and I’m a 31 year old artist living in the UK. I’ve made a few images now and coloured them myself but this time I’m looking for an inkist and colorist to take on my latest piece. I guess my most well known work is my Cross-over pieces of Renegade Rapunzel and that’s what I’m looking to do again but much more comic book style. My most faved picture from this collection is

Renegade Rapunzel by ToxicFlint

 I’ve uploaded a low quality photograph of what I want colouring (I will send proper picture out once artist's have been selected).

20140809 013235 by ToxicFlint

You’ll notice I’ve left enough space on the sides of the image to put all three artists’ names on the picture, either corner. I need examples of your works and prices please. The image is A3 sized, any questions please just let me know. I’m posting this on your home page and again in Notes to the group so it’s hopefully not missed.

Regards, ToxicFlint

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SiriusSteve Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014  Professional
Any fellow colorists bothered by how credit is always given to the penciler, while inkers and colorists don't always get put in the credits? I was looking at Hi-Fi studios' (a coloring studio with fantastic colorists) FB page this morning an noticed when they post their art they credit the artist on the pencils and not the other 2 artists. 
You'd hope a coloring studio would want to promote the importance of the colorist's art, but they're just promoting their name which (they credit the colors to the studio and not the artist), to me, they're continuing to promote comic pop culture that only gives appreciation to the penciler.
20+ years ago colorists basically just did flats, or even color by number. I feel I've always been an active ARTIST be it drawing or coloring. I believe changes should be made to give proper credit to all three artists. Today coloring is a form of painting, comic painting.
I guess I'm just wondering if my fellow colorists are feeling the same way. Thoughts?
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:iconrosshughes:
RossHughes Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I'll try to keep this short, but that's not usually my style.

If I'm not mistaken, Brian and/or Kristy Miller aren't always the ones updating the FB page, so there are times where whoever is updating the page probably won't know who actually colored it.

BUT, even if they did know, I don't really think it matters.  Sure it would be nice to get some individual credit for the pages we do for the studio, it's not really the point of their page.  It's about promoting the studio to get the studio exposure and (hopefully) more work.  I, and probably everyone else within the studio, have their own individual FB pages and can post their individual pages that they colored to promote themselves.

It's just not always feasible to break down everyone involved in coloring a book for the studio because it just takes too much time to try to figure out who was involved and what specific pages they were assigned.  Keep in mind that by the time we're allowed to post our work, it's been almost a month since we've done the actual work.  You can't really expect people to go back and figure out who was involved in an issue (usually 3-5 people per book) for all of the books that we're involved in.  We're coloring 3-6 books a month so it's got to be a hassle to try to credit everyone involved for their individual contributions.  Additionally, there can be a lot of adjustments, and sometimes recoloring, that goes into the pages after we've turned them in to the studio to keep things uniform, improve the look, or just set a tone for a book.  So even though we may have done the lion's share of the work on a page, it may not end up getting used in exactly the way we've done it.  In the end, we're working for the studio, so the studio is credited for the work.  You don't see McDonalds FB page giving credit to the fry cooks.  ;)

Brian has done a really good job at promoting a colorist's contributions to the process.  I'm not sure where a contrary opinion to that would be coming from.  Not to mention his contributions toward helping people get started with coloring with his books, classes, and workshops.
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SiriusSteve Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Professional
Thanks Ross, you're a wonderful colorist, why would you compare your job with the fry guy at Mickey-D's? (and they credit no one one but ol' Ronald)
Joking aside, when you go to a con and you're coloring live, and someone asks you, "what are you drawing?" (Because the majority of the time that's the only job in comics they know anything about, only a small few will ask about coloring) You say I'm coloring, followed by a brief explanation.
Most people in the world don't know what coloring is. Many years ago drawing was the only real artist job in comics, things have changed. We have the great Ross Hughes and many others now.
You and I know about colorists, because we've been coloring for years. I didn't know much about colorists at all until my early 20s, and I read comics.
Hi Fi ought to let the world know there are 2-3 artists on most comics, not just someone who draws. They can say "Colors by us" all they want but only half or so will understand enough to appreciate it. Equal crediting helps everyone. And mentioned them when I opened this discussion because as a coloring studio they have more responsibility than others to to do uphold the colorists title, and inform what we do. At least that's my opinion.
DC is starting this trend, it's not ridiculous, it shows class. It would be a great time for us and fellow colorists to unite and gently help the rest of the world get on board and get informed.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014
We all feel that way I imagine, but slowly and surely, the times they are a changing! DC now give cover credits to colourists (only recently though), and the smaller press guys, ranging from Image to IDW and even smaller, all seem to give credits as well, and have done for a while. Marvel is the only one lacking in this. As for Hi-Fi... as its a studio, its important for them to promote it as such, otherwise they become an agency, and I would imagine its pretty time consuming to keep track of all the credits they would need to give out as they can have multiple colourists on any given book. Inkers are better represented than the colourists right now (they've had cover credits for quite a while), but like I said, that's rapidly changing. Hi-Fi is very much a launching platform for many of todays colourists, whereby you sacrifice a direct credit for an opportunity at higher level experience, and a nice tasty recomendation on your resume at the same time. I felt much the same way as you at first, but over time have come to realise how invaluable Hi-Fi has been to many peers in kickstarting their careers.
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SiriusSteve Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014  Professional
Thanks Simon, I love & have a high respect for you and your beautiful work.
I do feel that if a coloring studio credits its colorists they promote their studio by elevating the mantle of the colorist. Crediting the individual colorist, I'm sure you'd agree, does not diminish the role of the studio. I think hiding the colorist' name in credits where they give the names of the other artists is actually hurting the image of coloring studios and colorists in general because it shows the colorist has the least important name among the three.
I do give them props for their great work, but I think not crediting their color artists is showing a lower respect for the coloring phase of comics, and therefore a lack of respect for themselves as well. I hope they makes some changes, to help colorists as a whole including their studio.
Maybe they could say "and colored by our very own ......!" when they're crediting the other artists on their facebook page or wherever.
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:iconspidermanfan2099:
spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
It could well be that the person doing their social networking doesn't have the info... imagine they get 5 colourists on a single book, and the IT guy doesn't get those names, can't be helped in that case, much easier to band it all under one header of Hi-Fi. I think its a worthwhile business model, Brian Miller has put a lot of time and effort into making the brand, endless books, videos, seminars, tutorials and one on one help... he even credits his own work under the Hi-Fi header. Its an effective business model, and if he didn't promote it as such, Hi-Fi would diminish, and so would the opportunities for up and coming colourists. Hi-Fi has given a lot to the colour side of the business, I think its a little unfair to criticise their practice in this case, considering the damage it would do to their brand if they were to stop claiming credit under the Hi-Fi header, from what I know, they really do look after their colourists, much better than any agency.

And remember, a lot of the times, the colourist for Hi-Fi is working solely in a technical capacity, doing the role of ghosting effectively. They are given the palette and style to use, and must match the other colourist, they aren't always given the leeway to let loose with their own approach. I've done ghosting work before for DC guys, and I do not mind that I don't get credit, seeing as its really not my palette and style, I would hate to take credit for copying someone else... I just consider myself part of the machine in that way.

Hi-Fi has on occasion from what i've seen done what you suggested 'and coloured by our very own', but this seems to be in most cases when the colourist has done the whole book for them.

I think you would maybe see it in a different light if you had the experience of working for them, with the opportunities it would open up for you, and the experience and contacts you would make. Its probably best to speak to guys like Ross Hughes about the whole thing really, he's worked with them quite a bit, and its done him the world of good having that opportunity.
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ZackMurdock Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
-PLEASE HELP-
Hey, I have been coloring for a while (without putting my lineart on a separate layer.)
I must learn how to do so as it seems to clearly be a key stage in the coloring process. I have searched all over the internet but simply cannot find any way that makes sense! a step by step guide from when I open the ink file, to when im ready to start flatting would be extremely helpful! if you can get back to me as soon as possible, it would help me out a great deal!
-PLEASE HELP-
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:iconseane:
SeanE Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Read the "Cici" tutorial on my website --> www.seanellery.com

that will tell you how to make the lineart into a channel. It's for photoshop 5 but it's basically the same for higher versions. I'm sure you'll work it out...
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:iconzackmurdock:
ZackMurdock Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes indeed!
ive got it now, thanks for your help!
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